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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208259962" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208259962">(Aug 27 2020 at 18:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>So <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116883">@tmandry</span> pointed out in the last meeting that we had never scheduled the meeting to talk about the way that we figure out what values might be live at a yield boundary</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208260116" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208260116">(Aug 27 2020 at 18:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we did the same timwe as before, we could do <time datetime="2020-09-01T20:00:00Z">2020-09-01T16:00:00-04:00</time>, would that work for folks?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208260165" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208260165">(Aug 27 2020 at 18:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>er, actually, I guess there's a trait working group meeting then :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208264008" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Lucio Franco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208264008">(Aug 27 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd love to join</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208345448" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208345448">(Aug 28 2020 at 13:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hmm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208345507" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208345507">(Aug 28 2020 at 13:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>I could do <time datetime="2020-09-01T21:00:00Z">2020-09-01T17:00:00-04:00</time> potentially</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208345524" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208345524">(Aug 28 2020 at 13:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>Would that work for folks? cc <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1172">@WG-async-foundations</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208345638" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208345638">(Aug 28 2020 at 13:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>Works for me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208346299" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Yoshua Wuyts <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208346299">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sorry, that's too late for me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208346499" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Yoshua Wuyts <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208346499">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>But I don't think it's neccesary I attend, so no need to reschedule just for me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208346886" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> csmoe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208346886">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting/near/208345507">said</a>:</p>
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<p>I could do <time datetime="2020-09-01T21:00:00Z">2020-09-01T17:00:00-04:00</time> potentially</p>
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<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> what's your timezone?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208349533" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Lucio Franco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208349533">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Assuming this is 5pm EDT I'll be there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208349644" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208349644">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116773">@csmoe</span> my time zone is US Eastern, but that should be dispalyed in your local time zone</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208349662" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208349662">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's the zulip "timezome-aware time" feature</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208349938" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208349938">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok I'm going to make the calendar invite</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208349964" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208349964">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>hopefully it works for <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116883">@tmandry</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208349996" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208349996">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="211722">@Yoshua Wuyts</span> :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208350180" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208350180">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://calendar.google.com/event?action=TEMPLATE&amp;tmeid=MW9kcDNhamtkM2xhYmNlY29pczkzYmduYTcgNnU1cnJ0Y2U2bHJ0djA3cGZpM2RhbWdqdXNAZw&amp;tmsrc=6u5rrtce6lrtv07pfi3damgjus%40group.calendar.google.com">calendar event</a> but folks who want to be invited should speak up</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208350187" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> csmoe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208350187">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>so my time is 12 hours ahead at 17:00PM, works for me <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/208405831" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#208405831">(Aug 28 2020 at 23:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> yep works for me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/224243761" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#224243761">(Jan 27 2021 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>so <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119031">@Esteban Küber</span> was asking me about this issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/224243786" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#224243786">(Jan 27 2021 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>they and i were going to do a quick zoom call to talk it over a bit</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/224243793" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#224243793">(Jan 27 2021 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>thogh I'm trying to find the notes from before</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/224243975" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Esteban Küber <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#224243975">(Jan 27 2021 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was wondering whether the behavior should match what is being done for partial borrows in closures and wait for that to coalesce before working on this. But yes, I am interested in driving this to completion.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/224243990" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#224243990">(Jan 27 2021 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://zoom.us/j/93523133363?pwd=WWR2YThZbW9lbk1iYTEwdFlRQ3VZdz09">https://zoom.us/j/93523133363?pwd=WWR2YThZbW9lbk1iYTEwdFlRQ3VZdz09</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/224244053" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#224244053">(Jan 27 2021 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>I found <a href="https://hackmd.io/Qr4rGglfSMGEDItP5YWgtA">this hackmd document</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/224244065" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#224244065">(Jan 27 2021 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119031">@Esteban Küber</span> <span aria-label="point up" class="emoji emoji-1f446" role="img" title="point up">:point_up:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async%20%22live%20values%20over%20yield%22%20meeting/near/224246207" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Esteban Küber <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/async.20.22live.20values.20over.20yield.22.20meeting.html#224246207">(Jan 27 2021 at 20:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks thay was useful</p>



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